Has anyone bought one of GM Tech 2 scanner clone?

Has anyone bought/used one of Chinese Tech 2 scanner (clone)? If so is it any good? I ask this as I’m contemplating buying one. And there are soooo many versions of Tech2 clone; which one should i have?

 

Reply: Look the chart and tech2 review below. Maybe it can help you a lot.

 

  1. GM Tech 2 package difference:
Item NO. Package Weight 32MB Card CANDI TIS2000 USB Key Hot or not
SP23 Plastic Case 5.1kg Yes Yes Yes ★★★★★
SP23-1 Carton Box 3.5kg Yes Yes Yes ★★★★★
SP23-B Plastic Case 4.8kg Yes Yes Yes ★★★★★
SP23-B3 Carton Box 3.2kg Yes Yes Yes ★★★★★
SP23-C Plastic Case 8.9kg Yes Yes Yes ★★★
SP23-D Plastic Case 8.9kg Yes Yes Yes ★★★
SP23-D1 Plastic Case 8.9kg Yes Yes Yes Just add 1 vci module (sp23-v)
All of GM Tech2 are same functions, they are just from different factory.
SP23,SP23-1 the same, just the package case is different, one is with plastic case, one not.
SP23-B,SP23-B3 the same factory, the packing is different, one is with plastic case, one not.

 

  1. GM Tech 2 accessory:
Item NO. Name Function
SO22-B 32 MB CARD need more cards, buy so22-b to add
SP23-Z GM Tech2 Main Unit GM Tech 2 Multiplexer
SP23-V GM Tech2 VCI module VCI
SP23-J GM Tech2 Keypad Keypad
SP09-B GM Tech2 CANDI Candi with express shipping
SP09 GM TECH2 CANDI Candi with post shipping
SF63 Main Test Cable for GM TECH2 Main Test Cable
SO104 OBD2 16PIN Connector for GM TECH2 OBD2 Cable
SO01 TIS2000 USB Key for GM cars Work with Tech2 for GM cars’ programming function before 2007 year.
SO01-B TIS2000 USB Key for SAAB cars Work with Tech2 for SAAB before 2008 year cars’ programming.
SP235 ISUZU DC 24V Adapter Type II for GM Tech2 can do ISUZU 24V truck

 

 

So, it’s worth having a Tech 2 clone?

 

It’s a customer review. Read it and get the truth.

 

Received the GM Tech 2 clone today. Five days from China, not bad for free shipping. Checked it out and everything is working fine except the AC-to-12VDC power adapter (dead). No problem, because I can get one anywhere for $5. In short, that is a nice piece of equipment to have, very nice!

Aside from working beautifully with OBD2, the tech2 is the scanner for GM OBD1 to use. with the right software (plug in chips like nintendo cartridges) it’ll do some daewoo/suzuki, GM medium duty (meaning bigger than 3500 using non automotive OBD2 standards), and other in the GMdistant family tree too.

In addition to generic codes (P0000-P0999) It’ll do all the proprietary GM codes (P1xxx), actuators, and systems. you can also view fuel trims, emissions readyness (beyond a green LED for all OK) and It’ll talk to ALL the modules rather than just the ECM (and if you get into the $250+scanners, ABS) like BCM, SIR, entertainment, EVERYTHING on a GM. At school I used one with a 91+ cartridge on my 87 S10, so going back further is hit or miss but possible.

To adjust shift points and fuel consumption and Speedo, forget it.

The TECH2 can’t do any sort of modding/tuning, only upload GM flashes. At least with legitimate software. I’m sure someone has custom software to do it but there are easier ways nowadays.

Is it worth if you just want to read/clear codes on your own car once in a while, heck no. If you’re doing a lot of work on GMs or want to get a lot more in depth with your car, it’s worth the money.

No comment on China knockoff quality, I mean a working tech2, Chinese made or not.

See my GM tech2 scan tool. It’s working well.

clone-gm-tech2-1 clone-gm-tech2-2 clone-gm-tech2-3 clone-gm-tech2-4 clone-gm-tech2-5

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How to tell Kess V2 5.017 Red PCB two verions

There are differences between the Kess V2 5.017 red pcb boards. Both work good? Let’s see the two boards here and read reviews to find out the truth.
Kess V2 5.017 Version 1: Most of the boards look like this

KESS-V2-5.017-OLD-PCB-1 KESS-V2-5.017-OLD-PCB-2
Kess V2 v5.017 Version 2: board with different reworked parts:

how-to-rework-kess5.017

1.the left upper corner and the lower right corner notch size is not the same

2.More than buzzer

3.WFs = Infineon, BCR112 NPN Digital Transistor

4.27E = ON Semiconductor NUP2105LT1G

5.6DW = NXP BC817,215 NPN Bipolar Transistor

6.A6c =MMUN2113LT1G / MMUN2113LT3G

7.K5B = BC807-25-7-F PNP Bipolar Transistor

8.Using imported Japanese Murata filter NFE61PT472C1H9L

KESS-V2-5.017-NEW-PCB-1 KESS-V2-5.017-NEW-PCB-2

Actually, version 1 is the old version; version 2 is the new one, updated and improved based on version 1. the new version works much more better than the old. Read how uses think of it and it talks the truth.

 

Review of Kess V2 5.017 with NEW red PCB:

KESS-V2-5.017-NEW-PCB-customer-review-1

Have make pictures from kess V2 eu China version with eu case.
works good and fast r/w over obd.

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KESS-V2-5.017-NEW-PCB-customer-review-2

Kess V2

Chill mate.
The PCB looks great!!
Who cares about the case? Inside matters!
Pcb looks just like this!

how-to-rework-kess5.017

KESS-V2-5.017-NEW-PCB-customer-review-3

PCB quality ok, not proper enclosure as advertised.kess-5017-red-pcb-revew-1 kess-5017-red-pcb-revew-3 kess-5017-red-pcb-revew-4 kess-5017-red-pcb-revew-5 kess-5017-red-pcb-revew-6 kess-5017-red-pcb-revew-7 kess-5017-red-pcb-revew-8

KESS-V2-5.017-NEW-PCB-customer-review-4

 

This is last one i received from China today looks pretty ok for 145$:

kess-v2-5017-red-1 kess-v2-5017-red-2 kess-v2-5017-red-3 kess-v2-5017-red-4 kess-v2-5017-red-5 kess-v2-5017-red-6 kess-v2-5017-red-7 kess-v2-5017-red-8

kess-v2-5017-red-1  kess-v2-5017-red-2 kess-v2-5017-red-3 kess-v2-5017-red-4 kess-v2-5017-red-5 kess-v2-5017-red-6 kess-v2-5017-red-7 

So, the nice case is the same as the ori to have things but it doesn’t matter if the pcb is well done. Don’t think you have to rework something.

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BMW F30 DME Coding After DME Replacement

I wirte up this topix about how to coding DME for BMW F30 335xi after engine repalcement.

To fix car I decided to replace engine. I bought a new engine with all equipment (including DME) from “Authorized BMW disassembling facility” and everything is mounted in the car. Only gearbox from old engine was mounted to the new engine. The engine is pretty new with only 7km on dash.

 

The old DME engine

DME-old-engine

The new DME engine:

DME-new-engine-1024x214

Both DME looks exactly the same, but numbers on them are different.

Now I want to start the car.
I connected to the car with Rheingold and received few errors from DME:
1F2108 DME, incorrect data record: Variant monitoring
1F2601 DME, encoding: Missing
1F2604 DME, encoding: Vehicle identification number wrong

 

Ps. 1F2108 DME, incorrect data record: Variant monitoring in details:
Fault description:
The diagnosis monitors the software variants between CAS and DME.
Fault monitoring conditions: The fault is detected whenever the software variants fail to match one another.
Action in service: Continue troubleshooting at following control unit:
-CAS.
-Reprogram and encode the DME.

 

With the situation above, i was confused to do anything. Then post a thread on a forum. People answered me as follows. Put questions and answers here, hope they will help someone out also.

 

How to align the DME to the car ?

Use abritus and ista-p.

Is the error “1F2108 DME mean that I need to flash DME ?
You must reencode DME with E-sys and if car still not start you must move ISN data from old ecu and do sync with ISTA/D.

 

Should i BUY bmw explorer ecu explorer?

you will need to buy ECU explorer not BMW explorer

 

I heard that when there is sync issue the engine will not try to start.

When I try to start the car the engine cranks.
Is this means that sync between DME an CAS is not the issue ?

In Esys I noticed that DME lack of CAFD. Is this could cause the engine to not starting ?

In esys click on “DME2 [12]” than click on “Detect CAF…” than choose CAF file and code DME, but you will still have to synch ISN number CAS-DME to start engine.

DME-enet-sys

Several modules with your ISN and VIN must match up internally to start the car, you may be able to get the trans into neutral and power to the ignition to crank, but if you don’t have the EKPS (electronic fuel pump module in F3X, idk the F10 equivalent) matching up with the DME and the gearbox module the fuel will never flow and then you can crank all day but never start because the fuel pump is disabled.

 

Is it possible to code the old DME for controlling turbo by wire ?

It sounds like you are trying to convert a PWG car to EWG. The 2 are incompatible and I have not found any instance of anyone being successful with such a swap yet. Your case is different since your changing so many components but it has not been done yet to my knowledge.

 

How the type (PWG and EWG) is represented in FA??

It is not compatible for original and replaced DME

1: You have to read out DME VIN from replaced engine. Use BMW explore or ECU explore to change VIN and sync DME_-CAS.

2: Check read out VINs type key. Use BMW ENET E-sys to change original FA’s type key->save it.

3: Load modified FA to caculate swfl, cafd…and flash it.

BTW you must use replaced engine wire harness and all parts.

 

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Renault CAN CLIP V172 ISO Torrent Free Download

(11/06/2017) Renault CAN Clip v172 Multilingual diagnostic software download on Mega:https://mega.nz/#F!xdJymSTT!ynCiyBCxpGjFWVsdPdeWBg
Renault CAN Clip – the latest diagnostic tool for vehicles of Renault. It contains all the latest diagnostic technology and information base to address all requirements.
– O.S.: Windows XP, Windows Vista, Windows 7, Windows 8, Windows 8.1, Windows 10
– CPU: Intel/AMD 2 GHz or higher
– RAM: 1 GB of system memory
– Hard Drive: 5 GB of available space
– Optical Drive: DVD-ROM
(Because to use the other option, (renault net), you need to have the renault server/account for reprogramming)
– Required Hardware: Renault CAN Clip Diagnostic Interface
– Files included:
renault-can-clip-v172-download-1
renault-can-clip-v172-download-2
– Security: Unknown
Note: The software is not from me. I hold no responsibility of a bad use.
You can use the last version- Renault CAN CLiP 171 software with security.
CANCLIP V171 is tested by professionals and users many many times. You can use that with relief.
renault-can-clip-software
Now, obdii365 experts are testing Renault CLIP 172 for you all. The result will be reported here.
Note: when you try to update Renault CLIP software (for clone tool) and it asks you for device serial number, you can put numbers from 1 to 7… or all zeros…
Renault CAN CLiP update issues & solutions:

Issue: CAN CLIP firmware update at 20% (solutions)

Here are some customer solutions of Renault CAN CLIP firmware update stops at 20%, some solved by files rename and some by CLIP pcb reword.
Solutions:
Solution I: (said 100% working)
For those who have a Chinese Can clip that remain stuck at 20% on the update of the firmware here is the procedure to stop the worries and can again use the Clip device.
Must rename the following files:
C: \ CLIP \ DATA \ APPLI \ PARAMS \ appliiso.s19 in appliiso.bak
C: \ CLIP \ DATA \ APPLI \ PARAMS \ applican.s19 in applican.bak
tested by my self work 100%
Solution II:
if firmware update stops at 20% the solution is very easy
Exist some problems in hardware … ISO pcb or CAN pcb
For bypass that error search for 2 files APLIISO.S19 and APLIICAN.S19 and rename this files to .bak one time ISO …start the soft and ceck …. and one time CAN and restrt the soft and ceck…and you see where is the problem CAN hardware or ISO hardware….
The files is located here :
C:\ASDE\MODULES\
C:\CLIP\DATA\APPLI\PARAMS\
If you have renamed the right file no more firmware stop at 20% but the problem on hardware remain and is possible use the interface only for ISO or only for CAN vehicles…..or put the interface in trash !!!!
BUT, some say the exactly reasons for 20% update problem is not the software problem! It’s HARDWARE problem with your clone CLIP sonde. You probably have bad flash chip or bad soldering, or bad oscillator, or, … you name it, but anyway as I said it’s pure hardware problem. You can avoid firmware update for ISO or CAN board with renaming few files, but that is not solution because if you can’t update firmware, your CLIP will not work properly. 
Solution III:
Besides two pcb’s inside Clip (can and iso) there is small thrid pcb where is round connector for car cable . When this cable is plugged and unplugged to Clip very often ( which needs a little force ), then solderings on metal pins which links this small pcb with rest of clip are breaking with the time.
You just need to resolder connections of these pins.
I did it and it solve update 20% problem
Renault CAN CLiP reprogramming FAQs:
Q: Why to choose reprogramming through a cd-rom?
A: Because to use the other option, (renault net), you need to have the renault server/account…
Q: What is the purpose of renault can clip reprogramming?
A: This update installs an updated version of the ECU software, it can be released for example, if renault found a glitch in the previous versions, or to make slightly changes as the engine gets older etc…
Q: Do you know if you can reprogram a Renault ECU for more than 1 times???
A: With clip, if the software available is higher than the one installed, you can… You can’t install a lower/older version…

Q: What’s the Renault can clip programming mode serial

A: Renault clip on programming: It asked for a 7-digit serial (digits 0-9).
123456789 works good
all Zeros 0000000
1234567 works fine
Note: with Renault Can Clip china clone, you need luck to do ECU programming and key programming. But most have no luck to do this. You’ll get what you pay for. The Clone are much more cheaper than the Genuine. Usually, CANCLIP interface clone is good at basic OBD2 diagnostic tests and ECU reprogramming only.
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Kess V2 Master or Slave Buying Guide

What’s the exact difference between kess v2 slave or master?
It’s better to buy original or clone are good?
It all depends. Kess v2 good clone used be ok for older ecus only, but now also work great with newer ones. and with a slave you will have to rely on the master for your maps whaere as if you have a master you can write your own or choose where you get them from.
Kess v2 master:
If you have a master version you can work directly on the program you have write on the vehicle (tuning, egr off, ….) and rewrite after directly.
Kess v2 slave:
If you are a slave version (who depend of a master (who do modificated), you read the program (crypted by genius), you send it to the master, he do what you what (money paid) and he re-sent to you to write in the ecu machine.It is expensive for the slave version user who depend of a master.
Kess v2 slave into master:
clone kess v2 floods the market is why there is lots of genuine kess slave for sale, plus most slaves cannot do boot mode
the advantages of using original kess v2 and converting it is that you have genuine original kess hardware, so the chances of hardware failure is smaller
if you can fit genuine nxp chip then great, otherwise you will converting to Chinese NXP with the Chinese firmware
kess-v2-nxp-chip
advantages are that converted unit does boot mode, and in some cases have more protocols, you already said yourself you want more freedom, and likely better tuning files!
Kess v2 original:
It’s made by Alientech
kess-v2-original
Kess v2 china clone:
kess-v2-clone
You can see how much the kess v2 clone looks like the original.
If you go with Kess v2 firmware 5.017 china clone, you will have lots of options.
Look here:
Kess v2 (se137)  No Tokens Limitation
kess-v2-se137
Kess v2 (se137-b) Online Version No Tokens Limitation
kess-v2-se137-b
Kess v2 (se137-c) online version No Tokens Limitation
kess-v2-se137-c
Kess v2 (se137-c1 red PCB) EU Version Supports Online Connection No Token Limited
kess-v2-se137-c1-1
kess-v2-se137-c1-2
Kess v2 v5.017 (se137-c2 green PCB) EU Version Supports Online Connection No Token Limited
kess-v2-se137-c2-1
kess-v2-se137-c2-2
No comment on China knockoff quality, I mean a working kess v2, Chinese made or not.
Kess v2 clone into genuine:
Photo is of original board so check all others components to be as per this one.
modify-kess-v2
If photo is not clear enough …
Transistors to use :
BCR112
MMUN2113
BC817
Murata filters:
NFE61PT472C1H9L (connect ground for all of them)
Capacitors:
1uF – 35V
220uF – 10V
10uF – 16V tantalum
Fill up all holes from side to side
Use photo as reference if others components are different
Then the clone KESS V2 will also work like a charm

Note: The solution is not mine, to use at your risk. I am not responsible for a bad use.

The last: Kess V2 or Ktag?
KESS V2 is a ECU programming tool that is perfect for OBD use, while KTag is perfect for Jtag, BDM and all the Boot application (tricore and ST10).
With KESS V2 you programming directly through the OBD port of the vehicle, while with Ktag you need to take apart the ECU and open it, after you can make the read/write operation.
Many ECU has the advantage that can be read and write from OBD port (so KESS V2 is perfect), but there are lot ECU that need to disassemble from the car and open and this is the case for all the ECU that need to be programmed with Jtag, BDM and Boot protocols, so KTAG is needed.

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BMW ICOM A2 Setting for E-sys F series Coding Software

BMW F-series coding software E-sys is able to work with BMW ICOM emulator and ENET cable. Here’s simple guide to set up BMW ICOM A2 for E-sys software.

With ICOM A2/ICOM Next, you connect via ICOM. You will need to lock IP with program like EasyConnect or Itool Radar.

With BMW ENET cable, you connect via VIN.

 

BMW ICOM Setting for E-sys:

1)Run ISTA-D and check ICOM IP (mine is slight different of windows IP 169.254.55.70)
Properly itoolradar will do the same.

bmw-icom-and-esys-1
2) Run easyconnect
Type: REMOTE
IP: 169.254.55.83 (edit file ip_db.txt and add IP)
Mode: OBD_ab625
ICOM Lock
Check

bmw-icom-and-esys-2

3) Run e-sys
Connect via ICOM/Ethernet (tcp://169.254.55.83:50160)

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(click to enlarge images).

With ICOM, you can certainly try with ISTA+ to see if you get a different IP to lock with Itool Radar.

For ENET,

  • Make sure motor is running if car is not on a Charger.
  • Third party Security Suites (Antivirus / Firewall / etc) are disabled
  • LAN Adapter is set for DHCP and not using a Static IP.
  • The Target Connection Window should not be blank (It should show multiple target connections for different chassis’)

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Original Orange5 vs. Clone Orange 5 PCB Layout

Let’s check the PCB, adapter and capabilities of Orange 5 original and clone.

 

 

Outlook:

Left: Original

Right: Clone

original-orange5-5

Package:

OEM Orange 5 (clone) : Blue board and adapters

Original Orange5: Green board and adapters

Clone comes with software CD cause software is not able to download and update

Original does not with CD, you can download it on official website scorpio-lk.com.

Orange5 original comes with more adapters

original-orange5-1

original-orange5-2

PCB layouts:

original-orange5-3

original-orange5-4

Performance:

Orange5 original of course runs faster and works more. How does Orange5 clone work?

Let’s see some customer unbiased reviews/test report:

1)

I buy Orange5 china clone. Work great. Now i check in hc05b8, hc11e9, end eproms. All read and write very fast.

I have never had any problems with clone, everything works as it should, knock on wood.
I don’t know is there any scripts but softwares for immo,radio and dash coming together with clone.

 

2)
On Hc908az60 secured it work’s good.
I have 4 secured mcu, and they work ok.
I have tried 68hc11, allot of eproms, and it work’s just perfect.
I don’t have right now anithing else.

Clone but includes – Immo HPX 9V0
confirmed that oem orange 5 comes with immo hpx 9.0 and adapter set

 

3)
I have clone and work perfect.

2j74y ok
35080 ok
Tms immo opel ok
Hc05 immo old vw ok

 

4)
I have Orange 5 clone and everything works perfect for now.
I tested with 1J35D,4J74Y,1D69J,0D69J,0F82B,3K91D,TMS370c702

 

5)
OEM clone seem work good after report from some users. Just need rework solder points on Moto adapter.

I am not aware of a clone Orange 5 yet. But if it says not updatable then it must be a clone. Original ones are sold by Chinese sellers as well. Prices can vary depending on the bundled software.

 

6)
i have this Orange5 clone and work everytime with him. not work car radio option.i think isn’t bad clone and not expansive.

 

7)
I have just bought orange 5 programmer and all seems to work well happy

I got fed up with my genuine upa usb s programmer which didn’t seem to want to read anything, it went through the motions and said success reading a load of zeros gavel

Straight out of the box this Orange 5 clone read and write eproms 95640 and 95P08C3 in circuit no problem with no errors, but I had to make sure that my connections to the chip via test clip were all good and then tool work like charm nerd

I think I like it so far.

 

8)
I have it for a long time and for now everything is working properly.
One of the few clones that works well and works as an original.
So far its reading and writing (with verify) all eeproms i try. Good tool so far.
Some adapters are not supplied and must be purchased separately Adapters should be resolder for sure but it isn’t so bad ,at all
The main point orange 5 clone isn’t so bad as clones can be.
Good investment for sure .

9)
I like PIN checking function (test insertions) very much .It saved my job a lot of time.
In combination with my UPA -S ,carprog ,and TL866 a lot of job can be done successfully .

Great programmer. All that is stated works. If the speed of exchange is not important, you can do a lot. Many good calculators.

 

BTW:

Orange5 original price: US$1,299

Orange 5 clone price:  US$179

You make your choice.

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